02/03/2018 (Sat) 00:02:35
>>15091>This is the one big problem of socialism: governments subsidize everything, free money for all no matter how crappy their services are, no matter how insolvent, lazy or corrupt!
That's not true. Socialism is supposed to be social ownership. For instance, the factory workers would own part of the factory and have a say in what gets made and the labor. It's a means of preventing a population of managers from seizing as much as they can at the cost of everyone else.>If businesses can't provide good services then consumers should have the right to reject them and those businesses should go bankrupt!
Generally true, with some caveats. Would you want the public bus system to go bankrupt because it's not receiving enough money from customers? There are cases where businesses or agencies need to lose money just to provide a service to areas and people who wouldn't be able to help themselves. I.e. places where people do not own cars, and where the bus fares must be subsidized or people who are trying to lift themselves up cannot reliably commute to their jobs.>Force the businesses to compete with one another and allow consumers to make their choices is what I'm saying.
Socialism does not lead to monopolies. The USSR is not the only socialist model that we have considered. Socialism is a means of destroying monopolies, and increasing your amount of the pie, and your amount of leisure time by re-orientating our economy's priorities. Rather than having automation make the rich richer while working less, automation will make you richer, and make you work less.
As far as the welfare leaches? Most of them can work for a living, unless their physically disabled (and in that case they should get govt support).
How about the aristocratic leaches? The ones who are born rich and choose not to work? Or the people who were born intelligent and capable and who do not need to work long or many years to acquire incredible amounts of wealth?
Socialism is intended to try and make the amount of work more fairly distributed. It's intended to make sure the rich and capable work. Libertarians and conservatives focus on the "poor bums" but turn a blind eye to the "rich bums."
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